Amazon.com.br:Avaliações de clientes: Razer Raiju Tournament Edition (2019) – Controle de jogos sem fio e com fio para PS4 + PC (controle Bluetooth com e sem fio, botões de ação, palitos intercambiáveis, aplicativo móvel) preto
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25/04/19: I pre-ordered the Razer Raiju Tournament here on Amazon once I realised a refresh of Razer's infamous PS4 controllers were coming out, with the hope that all its past horrid problems have been solved (I wanted the protection of Amazon's great customer service which I'll get into later on.) I've played with it for a good three days now, and it's honestly a great controller. Unfortunately there still seems to be some lingering problems. There's a lot to be said overall but this controller isn't cheap! So it's worth giving people a heads up on what to expect:
- The body texture along with the grip on the back of the controller makes handling a pleasure.
- SIZE! I have larger hands than the average male and the original Sony DS4 never cut it for me, it always felt a bit cramped. With this controller, my palms and fingers land on the right spots naturally, which means much more comfortable long gaming sessions.
- The placement of the thumbsticks just works. It keeps you playing for longer without fatigue and aids good grip. I'm no die-hard fan for any console brand, but something most of us can agree on is Microsoft smashed the ergonomic design of their controllers and it's great to see something similar here for the PS4.
- On that note, the thumbsticks are very nice. Slightly larger than found on the Sony DS4 controllers, they have good grip and are concave to help keep your thumb on the stick consistently. They aren't as grippy as KontrolFreek's but they do the job pretty well without them.
- The weight of this controller really gives the product a premium feel and isn't enough to weigh me down (although please note this may be due to the size of my hands!)
- The Multi-Function buttons are in just the right spots for me and are easy to use once you get used to them. They prove to be incredibly useful in most FPS games (most notably Apex Legends.)
- The fact that you're able to connect the controller to your phone via bluetooth to change the multi-function buttons to whatever button you like, as well as independently adjust the rumble of each the rotor from 100% to 0% in 10% increments, is super convenient and a nice feature to have.
- The Hair triggers are literally a flick of a switch and immediately you have half the normal travel on your L2/R2 buttons. Great for spraying single shot weapons in FPS!
- Once you've used the Razer Mecha-Tactile action buttons, you won't ever be satisfied with anything else in the same way. Warning - VERY ADDICTIVE
- The braided cable that comes with the controller is the real deal and should last a very long time with reinforced connectors on both ends. It's a great length if you plan to use it on PC (why though?) but it feels a tad too short when used on my PS4 plugged into a 55' TV (but why are you still using microUSB Razer? USB-C is the future!)
- Unfortunately I haven't been able to test how long the controller lasts while in wireless mode, but Razer claims up to 19hr on a single charge! Sounds a bit far-fetched, but I will update this post with my findings.
There's a lot of good things to say about this controller, but there are also some significant negatives:
- The wireless mode still has a bit too much latency for high speed FPS games, at least in my experience. It's perfectly usable for causal gaming, but if you want the absolute best performance and lowest latency, you have to use wired.
- The LED status light on the face of the controller is designed to blast your eyes out. Jesus Razer, please give us the option to either turn that bloody light off or at the very least dim it down! This is a small point but it really reminds me of those cheap toys from China with a little light to let you know the toy is on which would light up an entire room. I shouldn't be adding black tape to cover up this beautiful controller!
- DRIFTING/LAG. I think I'm experiencing a bit of deja vu here. Don't get me wrong, it isn't nearly as bad as it has been in the past, but it has been enough to get me killed in game, and just downright push my buttons. It's effecting my right thumb stick and occasionally either becomes semi-unresponsive and drifts over in the last direction I pointed the stick in, OR it is responsive but follows my actions with a solid 1-2sec delay, making me appear drunk as I try to kill my enemies online. It seems to be happening at random times, across multiple games, wired or wireless. It's the main reason I'm returning this controller for a replacement and with some luck, hopefully the new one won't have this issue.
The major problem I'm having with this controller still seems like a software issue rather than hardware, so I'm sceptical to if a replacement will solve the issues I've been having, but there are so many things I like about this controller that it's worth the extra bit of time. Amazon as always have been very helpful and offered a replacement immediately (unlike what Razer's customer service have ever done with me) and should have a fully functional controller by tomorrow. I will update this post once I've found the major problems have been fixed!
Let me me know if you have any questions otherwise - always happy to help. Also, I have massive hands!
First off, I am a PC player so this is from a PC perspective. I spent a few days with it, there are things I like about it but far more I dislike.
What I liked: - General build quality felt quite nice - The feel of the tactile buttons, they are very clicky and feel great, you'll know when they actuate. - The usb cable is very high quality, the design is great. The controller end has a little housing for the port so the cable won't move about at the connection point and damage the port. - The matte soft-touch finish feels good.
What I disliked: - The buttons on the back are massive so if you grip the controller tightly you will press them. - There is no dedicated PC application that lets you customize parts of the controller, all you can do is install a driver then you actually need to download an app on your phone (iOS & Android only) and pair the controller before you can change anything. - Customization. You can customize the controller's buttons, rebind and adjust sensitivity for sticks but you can't turn off the light, it's very bright and is right on the front of the pad its blinding you in a dark room. - I personally didn't like the stick resistance, it's better than the Xbox Elite gen 2, but not as good as the stock PS4 Dualshock 4s.
I ended up sending this back, I only purchased it since the Elite gen 2 has issues with button actuation and I had to get it repaired and the fact that this was on sale.
I think this is a great controller for a PS4 user, the app idea to customize the controller is great for a console. For the PC with an RRP cost of £149.99, it's not worth it.
Personal opinion, hope it helps. I mainly play rocket league, if I could get a PS4 controller with these tactile buttons I'd love it.
I received the latest version (2019) with the latest firmware as of Dec 2020. Everything about the controller feels nice, the shape, weight, button placement and asymmetric sticks (xbox style). Triggers feel good - there pronounced shape needed getting use to - and the sticks worked well (no drift). I sometimes pressed the underside extra buttons by accident because of where they are but other than that ergonomics are great. Can't comment on lag because I don't tend to notice on the games I play.
However, there's two major flaws that forced me to get a refund. First is that the bluetooth pairing with my PS wouldn't work properly. Every time I booted my PS I'd have to go into settings, forget the pairing, and then pair again. What's daft is that pressing the ps button on the razer would turn the ps on, but then it stop working. It appears Razer can't get bluetooth right with this controller. Second is that it has to be plugged in for voice chat, which I don't feel was made clear enough.
All in all, Sony's DS4 is hard to beat for quality and performance. The Razer - even discounted - is nearly twice the price and isn't on par with the DS4 in those crucial areas.
The controller itself was a great size and fits my hand way better than the official ps4 controller. The clicky buttons are nice as well and the analog sticks feel much nicer than the sony ones.
I had to return my product because it would always loose connection to my ps4 after I turned the PS4 off so not only could I not turn on my PS4 by pressing the playstation button but when my Ps4 finally booted, I would have to forget the device and re sync the Bluetooth every time! This was incredibly annoying and required me to use the original controller I was trying to replace just to reconnect the razer controller.
Finally the buttons on the back are HUGE and really easy to accidently trigger. You don't really get a sense until you hold them. I like big controllers so I can wrap my fingers all the way round but because of the buttons I'm forced to hold it like a claw grip so it removes the comfort of having a large controller.
Overall I would certainly try it before you buy it if you can as it will not be for everyone, however there are some nice features and I may have got unlucky with the Bluetooth issue.
It's a nicely built and solid controller. Buttons felt a little more..."squishy" when compared to the default ps4 controller and the extra buttons and nice, big and excellently placed for ease of use that depending on how you set it up you'd never need to use the buttons again.
Problems start when you hook it up to the PC however. Despite being a /PS4/ controller, it doesn't utilise PS4 controller drivers when hooked up. It'll default to Xbox controller drivers and button prompts which can be a real headache since the buttons don't align at all and if you don't use an xbox controller often, you'll be fumbling around.
Steam will also allow a connection but it will again, force you to use Xbox prompts.
Trying to connect the controller with the official PS4 BT connector yields no results as the controller refuses to connect to it, PS4 or PC BT so I wager the internals of the controller are built upon Xbox ones.
It's a minor issue, but it's an issue enough to make me swear off the controller despite its excellent build. I cannot say how the app works as I didn't get that far to use it.
Its a pain to get to work on pc, took a lot of messing around and even with DS4Windows I could not get it to work with the likes of Forza Horizon 3. An xbox controller works flawlessly so im just going to stick to the xbox controller for now, until the Xbox Elite 2 comes out. That aside, just strictly for ps4? I think its a great controller, as far as I could see there was no input lag as other reviewers have stated, from what i have read, the latest firmware patch for the controller fixes any input lag and this was my experience. Very comfortable, very customisable, I LOVE the clicky face buttons, didnt really like the d-pad as it felt too sunken in, which made it hard to roll your thumb across, but thats a small nitpicky issue. If you are buying solely for pc use, look elsewhere; for ps4, i think its great.
This should be a brilliant controller. It is the ideal weight, the ideal size and the xbox button configuration is far superior to the PlayStation dualshock. Add to that 4 additional buttons that are well placed and extremely useful in the right game, it was a delight to use.
So why only three stars? First off, the Bluetooth. For a controller this pricey (I paid the £72 half price rather than the full whack, but it's still a silly amount to pay for a games controller) you _expect_ flawless Bluetooth connectivity. However, I was finding that the console wasn't picking up the controller, despite the fact it was still a listed device in my PS settings, meaning I would have to forget the Raiju and then reconnect. Didnt take very long but when you have to do it every time it soon wears a little thin.
Then of course there is the fact you can't connect a headset to the controller if its not wired. This is plainly stated on the product description, but it wasn't until I had to put that into practice that I realised how annoying it is having to be tethered to the PS4 in order to talk to friends. It boggles the mind how this was accepted at the concept stage, it's totally ridiculous on something this pricey.
The ease of the app was at first impressive: how easy it was to change the extra button configuration, but again this was short lived. I found that when I started a gaming session, my preferred button combo wasn't saved and it resorted to default, but because this isn't noticeable until you start playing a game, you then have to bring yourself out to correct. The ease of the app should mean this is quite a quick fix, and it would be... if the app could actually detect your device. I found I had to forget the saved controller and start pairing afresh every time. Again, not major but very quickly got old.
In conclusion, what should have been an excellent product and is in terms of build, is let down by it's software and the ridiculous decision to restrict headsets to wired functionality only. The big downside to this whole experience is that I now find the dualshocks cramped and badly designed in the face of better controller layouts. I returned my Raiju and have since ordered a Pictek for £26. No back buttons on it which will be a major loss, but we'll see how it goes. Keep on keeping on, thanks for listening.
Pros - Feels great in the hand, weighty and comfortable and much prefer the thumb stick layout over a DualShock.
Satisfying button mechanisms and hair triggers work quite well.
Feels more responsive than a DualShock
Cons - Programmable buttons on the back can only be set to copy a single, existing button (eg L1 or R1, not L1 and R1). They are also easy to press inadvertently so I’m not using them at all.
Seems to disconnect from console if you use the controller to turn on the PS4, requiring Bluetooth reconnection using another controller. (You can not connect it wirelessly whilst its connected via USB. WHY???)
Wired connection is/was unworkably laggy at times. Hopefully this and the Bluetooth point above has been rectified with the v1.05 firmware update.
A few points that could be corrected by Razer that would probably then justify the price.
This is a really well made joypad, but I would not recommend buying it. I got it because I prefer the Xbox joypads, I also thought Razor made great products. In this case I was wrong the Bluetooth connection to the PS4 is awful and it will not connect to my laptop on Bluetooth or wired??
The product its self is well made the button are very clicky and the weight is just right. I had to update the pad when I first got it from the Razor Website which was fine and the laptop works fine with it plug via USB, but when plugged in the laptop does not let you use the pad??
You cannot use a headset without plugging in the cable which comes with it. It doesn’t have the same functions as a normal PS4 controller. Real shame because the mechanical buttons would have been brilliant to use in FPS and fighting games. Hopefully they update the model to include headset support without a cable