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HankTremblay

great quality and great feeling

Avaliado no Canadá em 22 de janeiro de 2022

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great quality and the feeling in racing game is awesome

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ADRENALINE JUNKIES Qc

Very Nice wheel

Avaliado no Canadá em 16 de janeiro de 2022

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Steve

A good wheel but...

Avaliado nos Estados Unidos em 1 de abril de 2021

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First let me say I'll update this with time. Right now it's March 31st 2021. Also id give this 4 stars without question if more games supported it's defining feature and I'd give it 5 stars if you didn't need to buy 2 identical wheels if you want to use a wheel on xbox/playstation. There is no real reason this shouldn't work on both because hardware wise they are identical down to the last screw. The button labels are the only difference besides the software flag that says no this can't work on the other console.

Ok so the wheel like logitech wheels that came before it runs on a system of gears and rumble motors to provide steering feedback and the sensation of bumps and things. The ONLY thing new here (besides a better brake pedal) is a spinning disc that does it's best to mimick the feeling of a cars engine reving and some other small things you would feel through the wheel of a car...

It essentially uses the games audio for this and it's actually a fairly convincing system BUT the game has to explicitly support the feature and the issue is most games don't. Even games on logitech's website that are on the supported list don't always actually have the feature and that's because it was supposed to be added to these games but wasn't and logitech never updates the list on the main website or support website.

The issue with that is they are asking $50 to $100 more for this wheel over the g920 which is otherwise the same force feedback system minus the above mentioned aspect. Honestly the system logitech has been using hasn't really changed since the ps2 era.

Speaking of consoles... They sell this in a xbox and playstation variant. The only difference between them is the labels on the buttons... Oh and a little software flag that tells the console that the wheel shouldn't be allowed to work. So as an owner of both consoles it really bothers me that my $400 wheel won't work on my playstation for absolutely no reason.

Those gripes aside I do like the wheel. I was upgrading from a g27 which I had mounted to a Playsets evolution 3 model chair/mounting system. All the mounting hardware is the same and there was no issue mixing and matching pedals, shifters or ebrakes. Everything just worked out of the box although I suggest doing some internet searching to find the best FFB (Force feedback) settings for a game (they are different for each) and then dialing it into the best feeling for your personal taste. It's easy to do and honestly once you have done it for a couple games you can basically setup any game without needing to search for settings unless the game is giving you a hard time.

To wrap up, this is another good quality wheel from logitech that I really hope starts getting more support in games because so far the games they said it would be patched into have never been updated. Even the brand new Dirt 5 doesn't support it and codemasters had the most games on the compatibility list by far... Sadly most of the promised games didn't get said support.

If this is your first wheel also make sure to give yourself time to adjust. At first you will probably do significantly worse than you were doing with a controller but with a few hours of practice and a good night sleep you will find yourself posting better laptimes and needing less assists like ABS, TCS & TCM in games.

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The G923 from a PC gamer perspective.

Avaliado no Canadá em 10 de novembro de 2020

Let me preface my entire review with this. I love this thing. It has reawakened a long dormant love for racing games in me that I could never get back into over the last 10-15 years. You see, I keep buying them because I feel like I should be enjoying them but... I keep not playing them. There are a couple notable differences between the G923 and the older outgoing models. The first is, apparently, that the brake pedal is supposed to be better. The second is the TRUEFORCE force feedback technology. I'm going to cover each of these things in detail. To test the wheel and pedals I've been playing GRID 2019, F1 2018, DIRT 2.0 and PROJECT CARS 2 in Steam on a relatively capable PC.

I want to talk about the brake pedal and get that out of the way first, because it's the main reason I can't give this a five star review. Frankly, I hate the brake pedal. It's supposed to be an improvement to the old one? I can only imagine how terrible the old one was. The problem is that the brake pedal, at least on my unit, is SUPER STIFF. It's so hard to press more than 50% or so of the way down that the whole brake pedal assembly slowly starts getting pushed away from me on a smooth hardwood floor. I thought there must be some kind of adjustment knob that was set to the highest friction on the bottom but there is none, it's just the way it is. I would describe it as pressing the brake pedal in a real car which isn't running so there is no brake assist. I worked around it by basically only pushing the brake pedal about half of the way down during in-game calibration, and also setting the brake sensitivity up to 75 in the Logitech G configuration software. The clutch and gas pedals are fine, operate nice and smoothly and I basically forget that they're there while playing. The pedal assembly could stay in place a bit better on hard floors but I think the only reason it was moving for me was because I had to press excessively hard on the brake.

So, TRUEFORCE... it's arguably the main feature change for these wheels and truth be told it sounded like a gimmick to me and I wasn't expecting much from it. The only major issue with Trueforce is the fact that only a handful of games actually support it right now. Thankfully I already owned GRID (new one from 2019) which was updated to support Trueforce, and is the only game I own that works with it, so the majority of my review is focused on the wheel in GRID. Is trueforce worth it? My opinion is... ABSOLUTELY YES. The difference in the feeling of driving with the wheel in GRID compared to any other game that uses the old fashioned standard force feedback is absolutely huge. It's to the point where a game supporting trueforce in the future is going to be a major selling point to me. I hardly wanted to play any game that wasn't GRID due to the Trueforce. So what's the difference? It's the difference between getting a massage from a masseuse and getting a massage from a plumber. Where "regular" wheel force feedback amounts to a lot of noisy jolts, bumps and tapping.... playing GRID with Trueforce on feels way, WAY more immersive. The wheel is way quieter, all of the feedback is way smoother and it just feels SO MUCH BETTER. Anybody making any opinions about this wheel that isn't using a game that supports Trueforce is doing a huge disservice to themselves and I highly recommend if you're buying this wheel also pick up GRID 2019 if you don't already own it. This is by far not even close to being the most expensive wheel you can get for sim racing, but I feel like Trueforce is a game changer and might really change the value proposition between the Logitech wheel and even much much more expensive wheels.

Game support, outside of Trueforce, is fine on PC. Some games are better supported than others, in some of my games I had to manually map the steering wheel controls perhaps because they don't know how to yet recognize this new wheel model to automatically set mappings, but it's not too bad and a one time annoyance in titles that don't pick the wheel up immediately like GRID. One tip I have for you is that Steam (big picture mode) won't automatically work with the buttons on the controller and you'll have to go into the controller configuration options and map at least the dpad and face buttons so you can get around your Steam library without having to reach for your keyboard separately.

The hardware itself is pretty much as expected, it's all very much a plastic affair (the leather on the steering wheel itself is a nice touch, though) and probably feels like a toy compared to much pricier wheels but it also feels like it can be played roughly with, take a beating and keep going regardless. I have not been gentle with it so far, and it hasn't once felt like I was going to break it. The clamp system works well enough to hold it securely to the edge of a desk/table and offers more than enough of a maximum opening range to fit even thick tables. The built in LED rev meter works perfectly in supported games, though I feel like it's mostly for flash and less an actual practical thing since I found myself just looking at the HUD on the screen all the time anyway. The pedals are just ok in general, I find they slide a bit on a hardwood floor over time but I blame the brake pedal for this that I already complained about.

On PC, the wheel is recognized and configured by the Logitech G software that is shared across most of Logitech's first party gaming peripherals. It allows you do to all of the usual things that you expect to be able to do in G with their gaming peripherals like setting up button mappings and macros, and it also lets you configure a bunch of wheel specific settings like sensitivities or overriding the Trueforce behavior. The G software is also the vector on PC to get firmware updates for the wheel but there were none available to apply at the time I'm writing this.

Is this wheel worth the premium over the older outgoing models? I suppose this highly depends on whether or not the games you play now support Trueforce or not, and whether or not most titles coming out in the future support it or not. Logitech is one of the most popular wheel manufacturers so I expect that Trueforce will be pushed to be adopted but the future is anybody's guess. The difference between Trueforce supported games and not is huge though, I personally do not want to go without it now that I've actually experienced it so the answer for me is absolutely yes it's worth paying a bit more for.

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Premium hardware let down by a lack of supported titles to take advantage of it

Avaliado no Canadá em 16 de novembro de 2020

As a PC and console gamer who has a son that enjoys racing and simulation games, a racing wheel is always something we wanted to get back into (we had an older Microsoft Xbox wheel once in a blue moon).

The G923 is the current top of the line wheel from Logitech so I was expecting a lot from it.

Unboxing 4/5

This is as simple as it gets. Logitech doesn't include a manual in the box. Instead, they've opted to give you a simple sheet of how to plug everything together.

The overall presentation is clean and looks great.

Hardware 4/5

The G923 is a solid piece of hardware. While much of it is plastic, several of the parts are metal (i.e. the pedals and shifters).

Unfortunately, the wheel does have a real leather cover which cannot be removed. This is a shame to see in 2020 where leather is no longer needed, especially in a gaming peripheral.

The pedals connect to the wheel and the wheel then connects to an external power source (adapter included) and connected to either your PC or Xbox via the included USB cable.

The cable is really short. Absurdly so. Playing on a PC might be fine if your tower is close to your monitor, but on a console, you have to be four feet from your TV to be able to use this wheel. Why Logitech didn't include a room-length cable is beyond me, but it certainly limits console play to an almost deal-breaking situation.

All of the standard Xbox controls on the wheel, and you get some extra for controlling the Trueforce feature.

Just above the wheel are RPM lights, which is cool, but they only work with Trueforce-enabled games, which is a bummer.

The pedals are of excellent quality, but the brake pedal is super stiff. If you are playing on hardwood, you'll likely have a bad time hitting the breaks. I strongly suggest using this wheel on the carpet (you can retract a bar of spikes to help keep the unit planted to the carpet).

The built-in clamps have worked in at least three different desks/tables we've tested on and it accommodates both thick and thin desks.

While the G923 supports a manual gearbox option, it does not include one in the box. I can't say how play is with the option shifter, but the paddle shifters do feel nice and work well.

Software 4/5

If you are playing on console, it's pretty much plug-and-play. Of course, each game will have its own settings for calibrating the wheel, adjusting the force feedback, etc. but this is to be expected.

The consistency of settings across various games is really hit and miss and some offer far more control than others, regardless of whether they are listed as compatible on the Logitech site.

On PC, you can get more flexibility from the G923 by setting it up in the Logitech G Hub software (which interfaces with pretty much any Logitech hardware).

Performance 3/5

For games that support Trueforce (very few at this time), the feel of driving is top-notch. It's completely different from traditional force feedback, and it raises the level of immersion to new heights.

For games that don't support Trueforce, but are still fully supported (quite a few), the results do tend to be mixed with some games feeling more authentic than others. Some games, like Mudrunner, feel terrible.

In either case, the feedback you get is responsive with little to no noticeable latency.

Games without Trueforce tend to make the wheel rumble more (and not in a good way), and the wheel is a little loud regardless of whether you are using a Trueforce game or not.

Performance across PC, Xbox One S, and Xbox Series X seem to all be the same.

Compatibility 1/5

Let's face it, it doesn't matter how amazing Trueforce technology is if no games support it.

At the time of this review (and several months since the launch of the G923), Logitech lists two (2!!) supported games on Xbox and two (2!!) on PC that works with Trueforce. Unofficially, I do know that Snowrunner has recently added support, so that makes three. But three out of dozens of driving and vehicle simulation games is really bad.

And because the experience with non-Trueforce games is just "ok", it makes me wonder why someone wouldn't just get the G920 over this one.

That said if you do own any of the Trueforce supported games, you will be in for a real treat. Hopefully, this list will grow, but I have to review this wheel based on what you get today.

Conclusion 3/5

While you get some great hardware and a (relatively) smooth software experience, your enjoyment of the G923 in its full glory relies heavily on supported titles. Unfortunately, with so few Trueforce games available, it's hard to recommend this wheel over any other model - at least for now.

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RubberCheese

Excellent layout; overly hard brake pedal, limited Trueforce support

Avaliado no Canadá em 13 de dezembro de 2020

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This latest version of Logitech’s gaming wheel incorporates incremental improvements as well as a new force feedback tech which currently isn’t well supported. I’ll also compare the G923 with my 15-year-old G25 racing wheel in this review as well.

** Video attached show some things mentioned in this review, plus short clips of playing Grid 2, Project Cars 2, and Euro Truck Simulator 2 **

MY GAMING AND WHEEL HISTORY
I have a G25 that I’d been using up until receiving this G923 (the G25 works perfectly, but you need to use non-supported drivers for Windows 10). I play some racing games (Grid 2, Project Cars 2) and a lot of Euro Truck Simulator 2. I don’t have a racing stand, so I set up my racing wheel on my desk for a couple weeks at a time, then put away until the next time I have a racing/driving itch.

WHAT’S INCLUDED
Included in the box is a steering wheel (with integrated 83” USB cord), a set of pedals (with 95” cord that plugs into steering wheel), and a power supply (total of 127” cord with a 4.25” brick approximately midway up the cord). The steering wheel has a spare input for an optional shifter. A basic, single-page quick-start ‘guide’ is included.

GETTING SET UP (PC)
I tried finding driver’s on Logitech’s website to no avail, but realized that I just needed to install Logitech’s G-Hub software. G-Hub installed drivers, and allows easy adjustment of both default and game-specific button mapping, force feedback adjustment, sensitivity, and can be used to adjust operating range of the steering wheel. The steering wheel includes two integral clamps to allow attachment onto a standard desk surface and holes are supplied to attachment to a wheel stand. The pedals have a carpet ‘grabber’ (can also be locked out of the way), and also has mounting holes to attach to a wheel stand. If setting on the floor, I recommend setting against a wall to prevent movement during heavy braking events, though you may wish to use a spacer to prevent damage to the cord which exits directly out of the back of the pedals.

GAMING – STEERING WHEEL & FORCE FEEDBACK
The steering wheel operates smoothly, and force feedback is how I’d expect even in non-Trueforce games. The buttons on the steering wheel are well laid out and easy to differentiate (and access) while driving. The shift paddles at the back of the steering wheel are wide and provide reliable operation. Shift lights don’t work (presumably only operate in games that support Trueforce). Overall, even with an amateur setup (i.e. no racing cockpit or stand), the racing wheel provides a whole new level of immersion in racing and driving simulator games.

GAMING – PEDALS
The clutch and accelerator pedals feel natural, but the brake pedal is much stiffer than I’d like. Despite this, the brakes apply evenly and there are no noticeable ‘locking’ events that I’ve read about with previous versions of Logitech’s racing wheels.

COMPARED TO MY G25
The G25 shipped with a shifter, and most buttons were on the shifter. The steering wheel-mounted buttons on the G923 are much more convenient to access and easier to tell apart. The steering wheel on both the G25 and G923 is wrapped in leather, but the G923 wrap seems to be padded better. The brake pedal on the G25 is stiff, but less-so than the G923. While the shifter from my G25 shifter can physically be plugged into the G923, the G923 doesn’t recognize it unfortunately.

G923 – THE GOOD
+ Provides a very immersive racing/driving experience, even in non-Trueforce games
+ Well laid-out buttons
+ G-Hub support simplifies driver updates and keybinding

G923 – THE BAD
- Very expensive compared to non-Trueforce G920
- Limited Trueforce support in games
- Overly stiff brake pedal
- Gear shifter not included (Approx. $80 add-on)

GAME-SPECIFIC COMMENTS (PC)
Grid2: No issues; worked as expected. Default 20% steering ‘dead zone’ had to be turned off.
ProjectCars2: Works as G920 (this means you can’t use some buttons)
EuroTruckSimulator2: Recognized as G923; all buttons work, and truck NVH through force feedback is realistic

OVERALL
I really like this racing wheel, but find pricing to be high, especially considering the limited number of Trueforce-supported games currently on the market. Unless you play the latest titles, consider the G920 which can be bought for substantially less money, even with the optional shifter.

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Michael Z

Good build quality - Not good for Forza Horizon 4

Avaliado nos Estados Unidos em 29 de março de 2021

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The wheel appears to be of good quality, installed easily.

The controls in Forza Horizon 4 are awful. Even with much searching online for wheel settings, I was unable to approach the playability of a basic 360 controller. The driving felt terrible with uncontrollable steering swings.

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Luke

Excellent Build Quality and Immersive Driving, But Brake Pedal is Stiff

Avaliado no Canadá em 16 de dezembro de 2020

The Logitech G923 Racing Wheel and Pedals are a total overhaul for my gaming rig. Previously, I was using just my keyboard and gaming pad. But recently, I've started to get into racing games more, as I've had less time for the more time-consuming gaming genres, like RPG. So wheels and pedals are just what I needed to get a good amount of driving immersion.

The G923 looks stunning. The brushed metal wheel, the hand-stitched large leather wheel cover, the polished metal pedals, and shifters, make a great impression. They look and feel like a premium product. The wheel clamps easily on my 1.5-inch thick desk. It's a very good clamp system that keeps the wheel sturdy and secure. However, a bit of thinking needs to go into doing this setup. For example, I will need to raise the height of the monitor or get a separate desk because the wheel so close it obstructs my monitor view. Also, the additional three cables are a bit of an eyesore and need some cable management.

Setting up the wheel is pretty easy, especially when using the G-Hub software. There's a lot of customization that can be done, but for casual users like me, the default settings are fine initially. I was up and running in just a few minutes. In-game performance, the wheel feels exceptionally smooth and the force feedback is nice in games like Forza Horizon 4 and Grid 2. The one drawback I noticed was the stiff pedals, especially the brakes. I wish they were a bit smoother and easier to press with bare feet. As a result, I find myself wearing thick slippers or even outdoor shoes when I'm racing. Hopefully, the pedals get less stiff with time or I can adjust the tension somehow. Also, not very many games support the Trueforce technology yet. Hopefully, this will improve. But despite this drawback this wheel an excellent build quality and immersive driving dynamics that will be appreciated by many driving sim enthusiasts.

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It's great

Avaliado no Canadá em 4 de dezembro de 2020

So my only previous sim wheel experience was with a Thrustmaster VG Ferrari 458. This wheel has no force feedback but uses bungee cords as resistance. I used and enjoyed that wheel with FM7 for quite some time. Then I sold the setup and I had always regretted getting rid of it.

When I got back to playing FM7 I just used my xbox controller (FM7 on PC) and it was enjoyable but obviously not as fun as having a wheel.

I've never used the G920 or any force feedback wheel before the G923 so really I can't compare the two. The only comparison that I know of for sure is that as of this day, the G923 is $200 more than the G920. In all honesty I probably wouldn't spring for the G923 if I knew I could save $200 for essentially the same thing.

Having said that, I've tested the G923 with three games. FM7, Assetto Corsa and Assestto Corsa Competizione.

FM7: For Forza Motorsport 7 I hated the feedback. It was nonsensical when the feedback was applied and really all over the place. I felt like I was fighting the wheel all the time and I couldn't understand why by what was happening on the screen. I had to turn the force feedback way down and I'm still working out what settings to use to make it better. To be honest I think for this game I liked the Thrustmaster bungie cords better.

AC and ACC: For both Assetto Corsa and Assetto Corsa Competizione this wheel is perfect! No changes to the settings are made and it works so well. AC doesn't support Trueforce but it still works great. The feedback makes sense and it just makes the game feel that much more realistic. For ACC, there is trueforce support. I couldn't play for about two weeks while Logitech and the ACC developers worked out a bug, but that's not been corrected. I can say that the Trueforce vibrations and feel does feel more immersive than not having it. Is it $200 better? Probably not, but it's there.

I do like the shift lights but since the wheel is only chest high in my current setup I never look at them. The G923 also looks to have more buttons so I will get around to getting those setup with ACC as well. As of now I just left everything default.

I have the wheel on a GT Omega stand and I have the old shifter from the G29/G920 working perfectly.

The leather on the wheel feels great and the overall build is solid. This is a great wheel and with what I hope is added software support it should be well worth it.

Oh the brake pedal. I read reviews that said it was really stiff and I would have to agree. It feels stiffer than a real car for sure, but having said that, I've never driven a GT racing car. I don't have a seat and when I first tried to use the wheel I used my desk chair which has castors. I'd just roll right back when braking. I had to start using my dining room chair instead. The brake feels much better if I wear shoes though. It doesn't bother me as it only took a few laps to get used to the feel. I don't think it's a make or break on a purchase decision, the only deciding factor in my opinion is if you want to spend the extra $200 for the added features.

If you're only going to buy the wheel, maybe the G923 is the one to get. But if you have a budget and then can use that extra $200 on a stand like the GT Omega, and maybe the shifter too, I would spend the money on the whole package and get the G920.

5 stars for me because for ACC and AC this is a great upgrade over an xbox controller. It's still cheaper than buying a fanatec setup as well.

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Logitech G923 Racing Wheel and Pedals for Xbox X|S, Xbox One and PC Featuring TRUEFORCE

Avaliado no Canadá em 2 de janeiro de 2021

Logitech G923 Racing Wheel and Pedals for Xbox X|S, Xbox One and PC Featuring TRUEFORCE is a solid piece of hardware but I think the genuine leather steering wheel is a bit overkill. Is it really necessary? It almost feels like a marketing gimmick, which adds consumers' cost but no real value.

We are far away from hardcore gaming fans. We connected it to PC and it worked great. The dual clutch, high-definition force feedback, responsive pedal, and everything definitely enhance the racing experience.

You have to find games compatible with this hardware. It seems that there are not a lot of them available on the market? If this is truly the case, I don't think spending so much money on this set is worth it.

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