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True Believer: The Rise and Fall of Stan Lee

True Believer: The Rise and Fall of Stan Lee

porAbraham Riesman
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Sumner
5,0 de 5 estrelas Terrific - far and away the best Stan Lee biography.
Avaliado no Reino Unido em 21 de fevereiro de 2021
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Abraham Riesman has delivered the first must-read biography of Marvel’s Stan Lee. Forensically-researched, clear-eyed and unsentimental, this is a very well-written, fascinating warts-and-all portrait of who Stan actually was and what he actually achieved. The book is always fair but doesn’t shy away from the more controversial aspects of Stan’s life (such as his lifelong tendency to assume sole credit - or not correct the frequent assumption by others of his sole credit for - his many Marvel co-creations, none of which were created single-handedly by Lee, and the vast majority of which were co-created with either artist Jack Kirby or artist Steve Ditko). Riesman also paints a chilling portrait of the parasitic family members and hangers-on who surrounded Stan at the very end of his long life. It’s gripping stuff, whether you are a comics fan or not.
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5,0 de 5 estrelas Terrific - far and away the best Stan Lee biography.
Avaliado no Reino Unido em 21 de fevereiro de 2021
Abraham Riesman has delivered the first must-read biography of Marvel’s Stan Lee. Forensically-researched, clear-eyed and unsentimental, this is a very well-written, fascinating warts-and-all portrait of who Stan actually was and what he actually achieved. The book is always fair but doesn’t shy away from the more controversial aspects of Stan’s life (such as his lifelong tendency to assume sole credit - or not correct the frequent assumption by others of his sole credit for - his many Marvel co-creations, none of which were created single-handedly by Lee, and the vast majority of which were co-created with either artist Jack Kirby or artist Steve Ditko). Riesman also paints a chilling portrait of the parasitic family members and hangers-on who surrounded Stan at the very end of his long life. It’s gripping stuff, whether you are a comics fan or not.
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S. A. Noble
1,0 de 5 estrelas Avoid.
Avaliado no Reino Unido em 8 de março de 2021
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Awful book. Self-mythologiser and tall-story teller guilty of self-mythologisation and telling tall stories. Written in the most sneering manner. Misses the magic of Lee’s prose entirely.
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RW
4,0 de 5 estrelas The truth needed to be told
Avaliado no Reino Unido em 1 de março de 2021
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Being a Marvel since the 80's, I known of Stan Lee and how could you not. However, in the 1990's I had heard claims that he wasn't the solo creator of 1960's of many of the Marvel characters. This book shows evidence that Stan contradicts himself over who created what. I admire Stan for his part in Marvel and without him it would have never happened, but the record does need to be set straight that he did not create everything in the 1960's. Also it seems that after the 1960's he just became a figure head with nothing to do with the content.
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Mr S Lyons
5,0 de 5 estrelas Marvel - ous insight into comic book history and the men who made it happen
Avaliado no Reino Unido em 2 de agosto de 2021
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I always felt that Jack Kirby was treated shamefully by Marvel and that Stan always sought to claim greater credit than was due to him for character creations by Kirby and Ditko.
This book doesn’t change that overall view, but despite this it does help to reinforce just how important Stan was to the creation and ethos of Marvel and the Marvel Method.
A complex and flawed character but an integral part of the very foundations of the comic book industry in the 60’s and beyond.
His final years were very sad to and the shameful way he was exploited by a variety of unscrupulous business associates is terrible to read about.
Overall a great read particularly in locating the historical background of the lives of the Jewish immigrants who came to the USA in search of a better life and whose children helped to change the face of American and Global culture forever.
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Ernie
2,0 de 5 estrelas Cheap paper quality- Paperback
Avaliado no Reino Unido em 20 de maio de 2022
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This review is NOT concerning the subject matter but regarding the paper quality of the paperback,. It is extremely cheap like that of those 99p novels, Im afraid to turn a page without tearing it.
Expected better for 12£
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1,0 de 5 estrelas I’m still an untrue believer!
Avaliado no Reino Unido em 5 de abril de 2021
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A book of a man who was untrue to what he wanted to be...a boring read to be honest.
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Anon
5,0 de 5 estrelas Great Gift for Marvel lovers
Avaliado no Reino Unido em 3 de janeiro de 2022
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Brought as a gift for someone for Christmas he was V/pleased not read it yet
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David S.
3,0 de 5 estrelas Thorough research, but terrible mind reading. Mostly speculation and conjecture, not biography.
Avaliado no Canadá em 27 de fevereiro de 2021
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Something like this could only be written after the person has passed away and can't sue for defamation. I must admire the author's diligence in locating so many documents related to Stan Lee and his early life. What I don't admire is the author's confirmation bias. Any criticism of Lee by his peers is true and Stan's version is always suspect because he wasn't 100% truthful in every respect to everyone he met and spoke with as a teenager and young adult. Over and over the author equates Stan's hyperbole and self-promotion as having the worst possible motives behind it. Over and over Stan and his family are belittled, mocked and ridiculed by the author for every imperfection, error, and mistake. The author is very clear that he does not have the hard evidence to back up many of his accusations which doesn't prevent him from making them. The book reads like CNN fact checking Donald Trump accusing him of lying about eating toast for breakfast when he actually had scrambled eggs so he must be lying about important matters too. After so many repetitions of this technique, any legitimate criticism of Stan Lee can't be easily recognized.

As for the key accusation that Stan Lee didn't really create the Marvel Universe - that most of the credit should go to Jack Kirby and the other artists who supposedly are the actual writers because they told the story with their layouts and artwork and didn't follow a formal written script by Stan Lee. Apparently, Lee writing all the dialogue later after the artwork was done wasn't the true creative part of Marvel's silver age comic book success according to the author. The quality of the artwork was of course a key to Marvel's success, but without Stan Lee there is no magic. Lee's words, his writing, his morality in the stories isn't the result of superb layouts and artwork. It's Stan Lee's creative brain that inspired generations of children. Stan Lee DOES deserve to be held out as a father figure. No one denies it would not have happened without Kirby, Ditko, Colon, Romita, Heck, Tuska, Buscema, et seq.

Kirby and Ditko's non-Marvel output proves they can write, but they didn't write like Stan Lee. Their comics were very high quality but never sold or became popular in their lifetimes. Not all the Marvel comics in the silver age were written by Lee. Why was it that the supposed true writers (the artists) didn't work their magic with Roy Thomas's or Larry Leiber's silver age comics? Anyone can tell the difference between Stan Lee's stories and those from any other Marvel writer back then. When he stopped writing comics around the end of 1971, why couldn't the supposed true writers (the artists) keep writing good stories? The good stuff stopped when Stan Lee stopped writing it.

The author has made a super-heroic effort to chronicle Lee's life, but like Stan's heroes he has a flaw. The book oozes with envy. As Teddy Roosevelt said, "It's not the critic that counts. It's not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or how the doer of deeds could have done them better." Stan Lee was in the arena. He counted. He fell many times and made many mistakes and got conned big time as he aged. The mistakes and errors and flaws are not the story. Without him there's no Marvel Universe and no multi-billion dollar movie empire. As soon as movie technology caught up with what could be done in a comic book, Stan Lee's creations lived again. And every movie and TV show now acknowledges the artists and the writers in the credits - probably as a result of critics like the author demanding it and pointing out their critical importance.

The book is definitely comprehensive, but look out as you read it because the author highlights the worst interpretations possible of all the arcane details he's chronicled here. I didn't feel very good after reading it.
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Petronius
4,0 de 5 estrelas Warts and all but not unwarranted.
Avaliado no Canadá em 14 de março de 2022
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I've always been a comics fan and was always amazed at the creativity behind Marvel's silver age. This book delves deep into his past, business dealings and incredible life that seemed to not be enough for Lee.
While at the same time the impressions from the author do tilt toward Kirby and away from Stan Lee despite the admission he doesn't have definitive proof of his convictions. I see this as a confirmation bias and not an attempt to dissuade the reader consciously. All in all I would certainly recommend this book to any comic fan, historian etc.
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James Collins
4,0 de 5 estrelas To be continued...
Avaliado no Canadá em 21 de fevereiro de 2021
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True Believer is an interesting look into the life of Stan Lee. I always feel a little depressed reading a biography, because it encapsulates a whole life into a few hundred pages and usually doesn't end well. True Believer doesn't come across as hatchet job as some biographies do. It seems to be a fairly accurate overview of events and people in Lee's life, utilizing interviews and research done by the author. Exhausting work, but done well, it can shed some insight into who that person was throughout their life. Biographies can never portray the complete person and there was much more to Stan Lee than what we read here. His story is far from over and certain things touched on in this book will, no doubt, be dealt with elsewhere and at a later date.
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